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What Google Customer Service for Webmasters Did To Me


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John H. Gohde
Comments:
The first thing that trolls do,
is to call an outsider to their
little group, a troll.

Reply: #1
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 7:58 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
From: EPUK
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Let’s not feed the troll, eh ?
~Nick
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Reply: #2
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 8:14 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
From: johngohde@natural…
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EPUK wrote:
> Let’s not feed the troll, eh ?
.
After all that would require you Droogies to provide me with food?
Wouldn’t it?Since you fundamentally don’t know what you are talking about, I would
say that feeding me some good advice and information would be virtually
impossible for a Droogie. Hence, your name. πŸ™‚
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Reply: #3
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 10:56 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
From: Phil Payne
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> Let’s not feed the troll, eh ?
.
Depends how bored I am. It’s sometimes fun to throw a bone in the
corner and watch them run after it.
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Reply: #4
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 11:04 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
From: silverstall
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aaaarrrrrrrgh Phil you’ve fed the troll !!!!!!.
Thats why i put my last ‘www’ post in this section and not under the
‘.coms misssing from the Uk’ thread in the indexing section as it
bounced this thread off the initial page notice board. Ah well i
suppose it could be fun to poke the troll. I wonder how long we have to
wait for the beast to awake and return with more libel.
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Reply: #5
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:14:00 -0800
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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silverstall wrote:
> aaaarrrrrrrgh Phil you’ve fed the troll !!!!!!
> Thats why i put my last ‘www’ post in this section and not under the
> ‘.coms misssing from the Uk’ thread in the indexing section as it
> bounced this thread off the initial page notice board. Ah well i
> suppose it could be fun to poke the troll. I wonder how long we have to
> wait for the beast to awake and return with more libel.
.
Keep on trolling. You guys are making me look, all so good.
I am still #9 for my keyword: Natural Health. πŸ™‚
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John H. Gohde
Comments:
JLH is basically making a
threat. And, suggests that
somebody might actually
do something to me.
.
JLH foretells the emergence
of the Hate Blogger.

Reply: #6
From: JLH
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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Be careful about throwing down a challenge like that, you never know who is sitting out there with a giant network and tons of friends who may just want to mess with your ranking for the fun of it.

For example this which is happening now:
http://www.threadwatch.org/node/10225
http://www.threadwatch.org/node/10267

Or this old one, which fell apart quickly for the site involved.http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=129323

If Dave Naylor, Aaron Wall, Graywolf, or any of the other famous SEOs out there take offense and decide they want to own “Natural Health” I would imagine they could in a few days.
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John H. Gohde
Comments:
My statement was addressing
the Google Customer Service
Trolls.
.
The Googlers rarely if ever
respond to questions.
Googlers, like Adam, are
only concerned about making
webmasters feel good about
being screwed over by Google.
.
Vanessa has resigned from
Google to work elsewhere,
perhaps for this very reason.

Reply: #7
From: silverstall
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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to be honest this group is more focused on seo and indexing thanAccessibility which is a subject best raised at
http://groups.google.com/group/
alt.design.graphics/browse_frm/thread/…

‘You, do NOT know what you are talking about most of the time.’
Does that include Adam, Vanessa and the other google employees whoregulalry contribute with advice on matters for which no-one else is best qualified to give?
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Reply: #8
From: HypnoticVibe
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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Part of me wonders, are you trying to get even with the owner of naturalhealthperspective.com by trash talking people and claiming that’s your website so they retaliate on it, or is it actually yours? Then again, that’s just my baseless wonder.
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A great accessibility forum is http://www.accessifyforum.com because they have several people with screen readers to check websites. They place strong emphasis on validating pages, using CSS, and being semantic (as you seem to be interested in). Good luck.
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Reply: #9
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 10:04 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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silverstall wrote:
> to be honest this group is more focused on seo and indexing than
> Accessibility which is a subject best raised at
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/browse_frm/thread/…

> ‘You, do NOT know what you are talking about most of the time.’
> Does that include Adam, Vanessa and the other google employees who
> regulalry contribute with advice on matters for which no-one else is
> best qualified to give?
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I am talking about anyone who has ever replied to one of my posts on this group. You should know who you are.
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Reply: #10
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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HypnoticVibe wrote:
> Part of me wonders, are you trying to get even with the owner of
> naturalhealthperspective.com by trash talking people and claiming
> that’s your website so they retaliate on it, or is it actually yours?
> Then again, that’s just my baseless wonder.
> A great accessibility forum is http://www.accessifyforum.com because
> they have several people with screen readers to check websites. They
> place strong emphasis on validating pages, using CSS, and being
> semantic (as you seem to be interested in). Good luck.
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I am not trying to pick a fight with, or challenge anybody on this group. I am simply reporting on my observations, especially on how SEO droogies just love to operate.

I do believe that Google Groups validate all email addresses. You can draw your own conclusions. My name is explictedly listed on the copyright notice of everyone of my web pages.

I am in the process of doing upper level SEO on my entire web site. Since, I am converting over to partial CSS I thought that it would also be a good time to validate my pages. If nothing else, Droogies will no longer be able to complain about validation issues, once my site validates 100%.

Anchoring of my home page, has yet to kick in. My backwards link count has recently tripled in size. The long term trends are favorable. πŸ™‚

I, also, have other ideas on SEO. My best keyword is ‘lifestyle diseases’ which is a minor topic for my site. If I can reproduce this success story on a large number of my other minor web pages, collectively all those hits will add up quite nicely. πŸ™‚

But, that phase of my SEO is still a long way off. And, has absolutely nothing to do with validation.
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Reply: #11
From: Daz-in-oz
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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johngohde@natural… wrote
> What has this Google Group done for me?
.
“And so, my fellow Webmasters, ask not what your forum can do for you; ask what you can do for your forum.”
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Reply: #12
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Mon, Nov 20 2006 10:34 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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Daz-in-oz wrote:
> johngohde@natural… wrote
> :
> > What has this Google Group done for me?

> “And so, my fellow Webmasters, ask not what your forum can do for you;
> ask what you can do for your forum.”
.
I do believe that I am doing it, now. πŸ™‚

Quite frankly, I have just exposed all your deepest, darkest secrets to the light of day in hopes of improving this Google group. πŸ™‚
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Reply: #13
From: Anghus
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 5:10 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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Talk is cheap!

No look, you complain about all the hard work you have done with your site and the time you have spent (jada jada jada) and complain about the little help you have received from this group. But have you thought about the time a lot of SEO and others have spent to help out people like you, for FREE?
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John H. Gohde
Comments:
Interestingly enough,
Rick1 and me were both
banned from this Google
group at the same time.
.
The difference was that I
came back within a few days,
when I had bothered to look
for a bug in their login
process.
.
I found a way in the
first place that I had looked.
In C programming case
makes a difference.
Originally, the folks at
Google failed to treat
uppercase and lowercase
account names the same.
.
Google groups are buggy as
all get out, and it took me
all of 5 minutes to crack their
buggy system.
.
Adam, sheepishly, did and
said nothing. And, I was back
in using what appeared to be
my exact same account
name.
.
So, I did do at least one thing
that the Google Customer
Service Trolls where totally
incapable of. I actually
managed to use my brain.

Reply: #14
From: Rick1
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:15 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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johngohde@natural… wrote:
> Keep on trolling. You guys are making me look, all so good.
> I am still #9 for my keyword: Natural Health. πŸ™‚
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John I’d be careful saying things like that. Someone (even from G) may try and change that to where you’re not listed at all. That’s why I never mention things like that in any forum. Especially not in a G forum when you (and I) are critical of G!
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Reply: #15
From: Rick1
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:16 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Never mind. πŸ˜‰ I see JLH sort of covered what I just said.

Rick1 wrote:
> johngohde@natural… wrote:
> > Keep on trolling. You guys are making me look, all so good.
> > I am still #9 for my keyword: Natural Health. πŸ™‚

> John I’d be careful saying things like that. Someone (even from G) may
> try and change that to where you’re not listed at all. That’s why I
> never mention things like that in any forum. Especially not in a G
> forum when you (and I) are critical of G!
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John H. Gohde
Comments:
The topic of this thread was given
in the first post of this thread that
was written by me. Whether I had
misspoken on another thread is
entirely besides the point.
Nevertheless, I had replied to this
question in reply #22.
.
The topic is the total nonsense
being given out on this group
as valid SEO advice.
.
Borris, also, brings up the issue
that the Google Customer Service
Trolls had attacked the design of
my health website, previously.

Reply: #16
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 8:11 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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I was also engaged in that thread (to validate or not to validate) and there was some extremely valuable and good advice on design from a number of contributors including softplus and Volvox777.

Silverstall also enlightened us with a crucial legal issue all of which you feebly attempted to trash with a tirade of abuse and libel. I have issues with Google as well however unlike you I actually listen and take on board the comments rendered particularly from people who
have a far greater understanding on a subject than you.

John in that thread you wrote: – ‘To repeat for the millionth time, validating your site has next to nothing to do with accessibility.

John in that thread you wrote: – ‘Validation has to do with Web Site Accessibility Issues’

To me this highlights that you are you have issues. What is it John? Drink, drugs, wife left you for another accountant?

Whatever they are leave them and your awful throwback to the 1990’s site out of this forum as you clearly one of the most saddest and ignorant fools I have ever had the displeasure of encountering.
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Reply: #17
From: silverstall
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 8:37 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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‘Silverstall also enlightened us with a crucial legal issue’
thank you Borris

‘good advice on design from a number of contributors including softplus and Volvox777’
100% agree

‘What is it John? Drink, drugs, wife left you for another accountant?’
where did you get ‘accountant’ from? i hope you not the troll masqauerading under a different name. πŸ™‚
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Reply: #18
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 8:49 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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John wrote in a previous thread… ‘Being an accountant myself, I can relate more to the subject matter than most people on this Google Group would expect’

‘i hope you not the troll masqauerading under a different name. :-)’
Well I am not wearing mental health facility clothing and when I checked in the mirror I do not see ‘god why am I so dumb’ tattooed across my forehead so I guess the answer is empathically no.
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Reply: #19
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:01 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
.
Rick1 wrote:
> johngohde@natural… wrote:
> > Keep on trolling. You guys are making me look, all so good.
> > I am still #9 for my keyword: Natural Health. πŸ™‚

> John I’d be careful saying things like that. Someone (even from G) may
> try and change that to where you’re not listed at all. That’s why I
> never mention things like that in any forum. Especially not in a G
> forum when you (and I) are critical of G!
.
I am NOT critical of Google. After all, Google has responded favorably so far to my SEO efforts. It is, also, conceivable that my problems with my individual web pages reverting back to zero, are holdovers from my previous host provider.

MSN still has yet to update my Meta Description for my home page, which is unbelievably slow. GigaBlast engages in unethical business practices, because they are now demanding that I pay for my search feeds. Yet, my site search is still working. So, I do NOT know what to think of GigaBlast other than they wasted a lot of my time for something that no longer works.

I am being critical of the SEO droogies who hang out in this group who recommend sitemaps and validation in order to cure all that ails a web site, regardless of the actual cause of the problem.
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Reply: #20
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:12 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
.
borris johnstone wrote:
> I was also engaged in that thread (to validate or not to validate) and
> there was some extremely valuable and good advice on design from a
> number of contributors including softplus and Volvox777.
> Silverstall also enlightened us with a crucial legal issue all of which
> you feebly attempted to trash with a tirade of abuse and libel.
> I have issues with Google as well however unlike you I actually listen
> and take on board the comments rendered particularly from people who
> have a far greater understanding on a subject than you.
.
This is 2006 rather than 1995.

Anybody in this day and age who is not aware of 1995 legislation regarding accessibility of web sites to the handicapped is a basket-case, IMHO.

Volvox777 fundamentally does NOT know what he is talking about most of the time. And, everyone of his posts proves it. πŸ™‚

Further, I do NOT like to have idiots like Volvox777 belittle my successful web design while inserting my name in every other paragraph of his personally insulting and idiotic replies to me.
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Reply: #21
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:15 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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borris johnstone wrote:
> John wrote in a previous thread… ‘Being an accountant myself, I can
> relate more to the subject matter
> than most people on this Google Group would expect’

> ‘i hope you not the troll masqauerading under a different name. :-)’
> Well I am not wearing mental health facility clothing and when I
> checked in the mirror I do not see ‘god why am I so dumb’ tattooed
> across my forehead so I guess the answer is empathically no.
.
I happen to have earned two college degrees, as well as attended graduate school. Is that concept more than your brain can handle?
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Reply: #22
From: johngohde@natural…
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:26 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
.
borris johnstone wrote:

> John in that thread you wrote: – ‘To repeat for the millionth time,
> validating your site has next to
> nothing to do with accessibility.

> John in that thread you wrote: – ‘Validation has to do with Web Site
> Accessibility Issues’

.
Two much for your brain to handle?

Validation errors are a sub-set of both SEO and Accessibility. Validation is a bigger subset of Accessibility than SEO.

But only a fool would seriously believe that Validation guarantees that their web site is fully accessible to the handicapped.

While in theory, malformed code could make a site unaccessible to a browser like Netscape Navigator version 2.0, in practice that is rarely true. Validation obviously has next to nothing to do with designing a website, either for SEO and Accessibility. Why? Because validation has absolutely nothing to do with design issues.

Hint, … Hint: It is always about good Design and Layout of your site … NOT validation to some arbitrary standard that means next to nothing.

Proving once again, that most of you people don’t have a clue as to what you are talking about.
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John H. Gohde
Comments
Borris points out his total
ignorance of the topic of
natural health. He appears
to equate natural health
with the sayings of Jesus?
.
There is absolutely nothing
about Natural Health that
says that being objective,
critical, or negative about
certain people, ideas, and
or events precludes someone
from experiencing well-being.
.
Months later, this very same
Borris threatens Igor
the Troll with physical violence.
And, claimed that he had
reported him to the authorities
to have Igor deported from
Thailand.
.
Borris Johnston will soon prove
himself to be totally vicious,
IMHO.

Reply: #23
From: borris johnstone

Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:49 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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‘I am being critical of the SEO droogies who hang out in this group’

Life is like one big box of chocolates to you John – isn’t it?

Thought I would have a quick peep at your 1990’s style site before it is de-listed into oblivion. What I cannot understand is you give the impression that you are an expert in natural health ‘The provider of information on this site has a BA degree in Psychology’ and yet at the same time claim you are an accountant? Or maybe this degree from the University of Viagra extends to the hobby of mending bicycles

On a previous thread you screamed ‘YOU WEB DEVEOPLERS ARE TRULY THE DUMBEST CLUCKS ON THE PLANET. I WOULDN’T PAY POND SCUM A DIME TO SHINE MY SHOES LET ALONE MANAGE A WEB SITE’ How do you reconcile this rant with the mission of ‘well-being?’

On another thread you are to be found shouting: – ‘STOP USING MY NAME IN YOUR REPLIES YOU PIECE OF POND SCUM!!!’ Well JOHN I must say if I were to find myself shouting in this manner I would seriously have to question the value of that ‘natural
holistic or whatever fraudulent adjective springs to mind’ course that I was enticed onto by your 1997 style web-site.

‘This is 2006 rather than 1995.’ John, 1995 refers to the date of the Act not when it was implemented which was only relatively recently, a point you seemingly failed to grasp due to your inability to read or digest the advise preferred to you by people who have a greater understanding and knowledge on matters for which you know absolutely nothing.

John you need counseling. There are some excellent sites
http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/ and
http://www.naturalhealthcourses.com/home.htm and
http://www.worldwidehealth.com/ all of which for some strange reason rank higher than yours.
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Reply: #24
From: johngohde@natural…

Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:51 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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borris johnstone wrote:
> > I was also engaged in that thread (to validate or not to validate) and
> > there was some extremely valuable and good advice on design from a
> > number of contributors including softplus and Volvox777.
> > Silverstall also enlightened us with a crucial legal issue all of which
> > you feebly attempted to trash with a tirade of abuse and libel.
> > I have issues with Google as well however unlike you I actually listen
> > and take on board the comments rendered particularly from people who
> > have a far greater understanding on a subject than you.
.
Also those legal issues people keep on bringing up, are total nonsense.

While the United Kingdom might take enforcement of Accessibility in web sites more seriously, here in the States all that correspondence from that so-called lawyer was pure bluff.

It is standard practice for lawyers to threaten all kinds of legal action by mail. Obviously, it is a lot more cost effective than actually bringing somebody to court.

My advice is to ignore all threats of legal action. When and if they do take you to court simply have your lawyer dismiss the case. In Virginia, no judge is going to take that type of legal action seriously. They will laugh them out of court.

All those people losing sleep worrying over caches of web pages. Ha, … Hah, Ha! LOL Time to get real people.

john gohde


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