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What Google Customer Service for Webmasters Did To Me


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Reply #25
From: “johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 9:55 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?
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borris johnstone wrote:
> Thought I would have a quick peep at your 1990′s style site before it
> is de-listed into oblivion. What I cannot understand is you give the
> impression that you are an expert in natural health ‘The provider of
> information on this site has a BA degree in Psychology’ and yet at
> the same time claim you are an accountant? Or maybe this degree from
> the University of Viagra extends to the hobby of mending bicycles.
.
Of what value would disclosing my degree in accounting do for a website on natural health?
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What do think that having two different college degrees as well as graduate work means?
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You have my condolences. :)

John H. Gohde
Comments:
What Borris is basically doing
is attacking my website. A
webmaster came to this group
for help and a Google Customer
Service Troll ends up attacking his
website. Exactly, how is that
providing help under any
definition of the term: Customer
Service?
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Further this Customer Service Troll
attacks the webmaster. Why? All
because that webmaster spotted a
major snow job being pulled by
these trolls.
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The fact that, that particular
webmaster is running a Certified
informational website that is
selling absolutely no products
seems not to matter at all
to this Troll. That is precisely
why Borris is a Troll.
.
It is no accident, that Google has
failed to obtain certification in the
user / visitor privacy department.

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Reply #26
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tue, Nov 21 2006, 10:27 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

‘What do think that having two different college degrees as well as
graduate work means?

Evidently not a lot although i note neither of them is a degree in Medicine.

‘Also those legal issues people keep on bringing up are total nonsense.’

You failed to answer the last post on that thread.

‘While the United Kingdom might take enforcement of Accessiblity in web sites more seriously, here in the States all that correspondence from that so-called lawyer was pure bluff.’

Which is precisely why the posts in question focused on the UK (and Australia)

‘Of what value would disclosing my degree in accounting do for a website on natural health?’

Perhaps exposing the truth that people who are misled into believing their health issues are being handled by a doctor in medicine are in fact being dealt with by an accountant. Sites such as these are in my opnion both immoral and dangerous.

I am not the little old lady or the young girl with psychological issues who daily fall victim of web-sites like yours, which gives the impression of being administered by a medical doctor or practitioner whilst all along their trust is being abused being an accountant.
Google how on earth do you allow sites such as these to stay indexed?

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Reply #27
From: “johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

borris johnstone wrote:
> Evidently not a lot although i note neither of them is a degree in
> Medicine.

So?

I do NOT run a medical web site. That fact is fully disclosed on my website.

Almost no medical web sites are actually runned by MD’s to begin with. Only a fool would think so. Do you really think that Dr. Dean Edell or Andrew Weil, MD actually run their web sites? They all have a staff of assistants, none of which are MD’s. At best they are only supervised by a MD by way of policies and procedures. It is all so much B/S.

STOP wasting my time with your Biggoted nonsense, PLEASE. :(

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Reply #28
From: “johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

borris johnstone wrote:
> Thought I would have a quick peep at your 1990′s style site before it
> is de-listed into oblivion.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my home page. Everything is a natural read. And, I have in fact cut it back some, and added a second keyword: Wellness.

Wellness is Wellness even in German, Italian, and many other foreign languages. The addition of wellness makes my site truly international.

And, I shall repeat again. My home page reads perfectly. And, is just plain good design all the way around. It is about time that all you negative people figured out who you are actually talking to. :)

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Reply #29
From: “johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

> borris johnstone wrote:
> > Thought I would have a quick peep at your 1990′s style site before it
> > is de-listed into oblivion.

> There is absolutely nothing wrong with my home page. Everything is a
> natural read. And, I have in fact cut it back some, and added a second
> keyword: Wellness.

> Wellness is Wellness even in German, Italian, and many other foreign
> languages. The addition of wellness makes my site truly international.

And, ‘Healthy Living’ and ‘Holistic Medicine’ make a 3rd and 4th keyword.

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Reply #30
From: Nick_
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

johngohde@natural… wrote:
> STOP wasting my time with your Biggoted nonsense, PLEASE. :(

After all, no-one likes a bigot.

http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/…

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c16e7ad0?d…

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thr…

~nick

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John H. Gohde
Comments:
Webado acts like another
spurned Troll. While currently
the #1 Troll on this group,
she was trying very hard at
the time of this posting to
obtain the top dog position.
.
Notice, how she prefers to
attack the webmaster rather
than offer valid customer
service assistance?
.
Also, she documents her
preference for accepting
gossip and innuendo at face
value rather than spending
time actually researching
correct answers to problems.
.
It is no accident that this
Trolls always offers gut
responses and other
superficial solutions to
website problems.

Reply #31
From: webado
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 4:56 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

JLH a écrit :

> Nick_ wrote:
> > johngohde@natural… wrote:

> > > STOP wasting my time with your Biggoted nonsense, PLEASE. :(
> > After all, no-one likes a bigot.
> > http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutritio…
> > http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics
> > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alter…
> > ~nick
> Brilliant find.

Worth gold ;)

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Reply #32
From: borris johnstone

John H. Gohde
Comments:
The Customer Service Troll
intensifies his personal
attack of the webmaster
that is seeking assistance.
.
This post by Borris was
a total fabrication, and
is blatantly libelous on the
face of it,by any sense
of term.
.
The message that I get
here is that the Customer
Service Trolls at Google
feel perfectly free to violate
user privacy.
.
And, can fabricate any
amount of dirt on you,
no matter how ludicrous,
anytime they feel like it
with the full blessings of
Google.

Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Hi Nick,

I was aware already of this deranged bigot polluting forums and the internet generally with his racist agenda. We tracked him down two years ago after his site had been traced and linked by us to a massive wave of spam e-mails. I also know a female victim that he racially and verbally abused – hence my vitriol on this thread and my concern with Google failing to have his site removed from the index.

The least offensive and relatively mild quote I could find written by John was:-

‘Sadly, we continue to suffer from the presence of the negro variety of homo sapiens.’

John said:- ‘Almost no medical web sites are actually runned by MD’s to begin with. Only a fool would think so.’

Sadly not the case for a Scandinvian student returning from her gap-year in the far-east. She suffered from what she thought was an innocent fly bite. Her youthful niavity was rapidly exploited and her Natural Health remedy was quicly sold. Sadly what she was never told was she had in fact contracted Trachoma from this Fly bite. Easily treated and cured by anti-biotic drugs the undiagnosed trachoma led to her blindness.

So John tell me DO YOU THINK IT IS FUNNY TO MAKE A 21 YEAR OLD GIRL BIND with what you peddle so well on the internet?!!

Natural healthy products compliment and in some cases enhance modern medicine. They should be administered with caution by a medical qualification not peddled by a racist who claims to be an accountant.

I implore you Google to look at the threads, displayed by Nick and have his dangerous and offensive site removed from the index.

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Reply #33
From: Volvox777
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

John

Thank you for taking the time out of a life that I am sure is full of self flagellation to again insult people who have tried to help you.
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Whether you have found the advice you have received here to be beneficial to you or not is really inmaterial. People have offered you advice with the INTENT of assisting you. Why you find it necessary to abuse people who are trying to assist you is beyond me – but then again, I am afterall a mindless droogie as you point out.

I am amazed that you would think anything I have said to you is abusive – particularly in light of some of the comments you have made about me.

John, based on the title of this post and the fact that you feel you have received no useful information from your participation in this group, are we safe to assume you will leave the group? This would seem to be the easiest solution for all involved – you don’t find our
assistance useful and I am sure most of the users of this group are becoming tired of your insults.

I have bitten my tongue ond not taken the bait for a fight in all of my responses to you but quite frankly I have had enough. Here is what I am offering…have your one last taunt at me and the other users and then leave never to return. If you make an abusive post beyond the one last stab at us that I am offering, I will forward copies of all of your racist, abusive and insulting taunts to http://www.hon.ch/HONcode/… and invite them to review if you are really the sort of person they wish to endorse by providing you with their seal.

John, goodbye and good luck – but mostly goodbye.

Daryl

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Reply #34
From: “johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

borris johnstone wrote:
> So John tell me DO YOU THINK IT IS FUNNY TO MAKE A 21 YEAR OLD GIRL
> BLIND with what you peddle so well on the internet?!!

Abuse has been reported. :)

This is supposed to be a technical forum.

borris johnstone has just accused me in public of practiting medicine without a license on this technical forum. So, I am publicly asking again for a Google representative on this group to take action on this matter.

My web site is an accredited health web site. Has been for 5 years. And, my accredition was just re-newed in October 2006.

These remarks are libelous, offensive, and totally without any foundation in fact whatsoever.

Nor, does my site sell any products directly. Nor, do we sell any vitamins, herbs, supplements, etc. indirectly.

john gohde

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John H. Gohde
Comments:
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Reply #35
From: Adam Lasnik, Google employee
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

[JLH, I'm not responding specifically to you (darn GG threading)]

Webmasters, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your beers. And *please*, for the love of Tim Berners Lee, would you quit the personal bickering?!

I may be lighthearted in my request, but I’m quite serious about this issue. I assume and hope that we all want newcomers and regulars alike to feel comfortable here. Sniping is not the foundation of a great electronic welcome mat.

I don’t think I’ve had to do this yet, but if I see egregiously offensive or purely personal bickering notes, I likely won’t hesitate to delete them without warning or notice. I can’t speak for my fellow moderators, but I bet they’ll do the same.

So, be like Nancy Reagan and when you are tempted to respond to insults, threats, bribes, whatever… Just Say No (and ignore ‘em).

Thanks!

Regards,
Adam

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Reply #36
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Volvox777 wrote:
> John

> Thank you for taking the time out of a life that I am sure is full of
> self flagellation to again insult people who have tried to help you.

Abuse has been reported.

I write about keywords on my successful home page. And, what do I read from you? A bunch of personal comments that I just plain find personally offensive.

Can a Google representative please step in and take action against Volvox777?

How does this post relate to my comments about keywords on my home page?

john gohde

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Reply #37
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

> JLH a écrit :

> > Nick_ wrote:
> > > [email address] wrote:

> > > > STOP wasting my time with your Biggoted nonsense, PLEASE. :(

> > > After all, no-one likes a bigot.
> > > http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/…
> > > http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c16e7ad0?d…
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thr…
> > > ~nick

> > Brilliant find.

> Worth gold ;)

Abuse has been reported.

This type of posting on a technical forum is offensive to me. :

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Reply #38
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Nick_ wrote:
> [email address] wrote:

> > STOP wasting my time with your Biggoted nonsense, PLEASE. :(
> After all, no-one likes a bigot.
> http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/…
> http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c16e7ad0?d…
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thr…
> ~nick

Abuse has been reported.

I find this type of posting on a technical forum offensive.

Go waste somebody else’s time.

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Reply #39
From: Volvox777
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:09 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

I would say my post is related directly to the title of this thread and your conduct while a user of various Google groups.

Funny that you have reported my abuse – I am sure everyone else here will get a laugh out of the idea that you find that comment abusive yet see nothing wrong with your own conduct.

I am deadly serious John – if you wish to participate in this group in a friendly manner I welcome your input but the next insulting post, whether directed at me or anyone else, will result in me reporting all of your comments and conduct here and at Wikipedia to HON.

However, like I said in my original post, I really can’t understand why you are here – you consider our assistance useless – so why not just leave?

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Reply #40
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Adam Lasnik wrote:
> [JLH, I'm not responding specifically to you (darn GG threading)]

> Webmasters, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your beers. And *please*, for
> the love of Tim Berners Lee, would you quit the personal bickering?!

> I may be lighthearted in my request, but I’m quite serious about this
> issue. I assume and hope that we all want newcomers and regulars alike
> to feel comfortable here. Sniping is not the foundation of a great
> electronic welcome mat.

Well, I am NOT going to be light hearted about this type of abusive posting.

I have been publicly defamed on a Technical Forum by the person who accused me of blinding a 21 year old girl. And, I positively want a Google Representative to enforce Google’s Terms of Service agreement against these individual(s).

Is this or is it not a technical forum?

I wont accept anything less. :)

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Reply #41
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Volvox777 wrote:
> I would say my post is related directly to the title of this thread and
> your conduct while a user of various Google groups.

> Funny that you have reported my abuse – I am sure everyone else here
> will get a laugh out of the idea that you find that comment abusive yet
> see nothing wrong with your own conduct.

> I am deadly serious John – if you wish to participate in this group in
> a friendly manner I welcome your input but the next insulting post,
> whether directed at me or anyone else, will result in me reporting all
> of your comments and conduct here and at Wikipedia to HON.

> However, like I said in my original post, I really can’t understand why
> you are here – you consider our assistance useless – so why not just
> leave?

This is a technical forum.

This is a technical thread.

Feel free to file your own complaints. Show, me where I committed offensive posting on this thread.

Different threads are different threads. And, different offensives are different offensives. You are not God on this thread or on this forum. You clearly cannot tell the difference between fact and your own personal conclusions.

I find all your postings to me offensive. :)

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Reply #42
From: Volvox777
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Show, me where I committed offensive posting on this thread.

How bout this – Post 22: Further, I do NOT like to have idiots like Volvox777
Human nature buddy – whether you are an idiot or not, nobody likes being told they are.

I am not pretending to be “God” of this forum or anything else. I am simply offering you an ultimatum that I hope will encourage you to participate in this group in an amicable manner.

How about we wrap this battle up and move on. You are aware of what action I will take in response to an abusive post by you but I am happy to never mention it again if your conduct improves.

I have read Adam’s post and recognise that I have engaged in off topic posts in this group – to fellow users I apologise for this. In future I will follow Nancy Reagan’s mantra of just saying no.

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Reply #43
From: Red Cardinal
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Maybe some of the energy spent here would be better directed toward helping people over in the main group :)

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Reply #44
From: borris johnstone
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

John said ‘Abuse has been reported’

bring it on – our attornies are waiting.

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Reply #45
From: webado
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Put a sock in it John Gohde !

Jesus, man, don’t you know when to quit?

Of all insufferable nerve!

I have avoided trashing you until now because of the modicum of decorum I have felt I needed to keep. But be warned that I will tear into you with all my might if I see or hear you’ve posted another asinine or insulting thing about me or anybody else, what’s you’ve
been doing all along. Words, to be sure, but the right word at the right time and you’re out on you sore arse . And don’t let me hear you complain about anything either.

I didn’t get to this point in life by taking abuse and insults from anybody, least of all from a snake-oil salesman like you turned out to be.

Oh, you will find yourself in Google – in vivid detail – all through your own doing and nobody else’s! And not supplemental either. Happy to help achieve that status.

What I read you posted here and elsewhere is so despicable, it makes me want to squash you like the damn pimple you are!

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Reply #46
From: Volvox777
Date: Tues, Nov 21 2006 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

Adam, I understand that as a Google employee your role here is to moderate rather than engage in this sort of nonsense. However, I hope you share my outrage at the racist and sexist filth John Gohde has posted in various Google groups.

Let me stress, if it were only personal insults from John, I wouldnever be suggesting such actions. However, I despise bigotry in all its forms and believe it is the responisbility of every reasonable person to combat racism every time they encounter it.

I am seeking expressions of interests to create a site dedicated toexposing John Gohde of Natural Health Perspective views on racism and sexism.

I am seeking expressions of interest to share the work of contacting sites that have linked to http://www.naturalhealthperspective.com to let them know the type of person that owns a site they are endorsing by providing a link to.

I am disgusted that people like John share the oxygen I breathe. I amlooking for like minded people to assist in the task of teaching thisbigot that, although he is welcome to have whatever view he likes, hemust never give voice to views that contravene a world of equality and harmony.

Anybody interested in assisting with this undertaking can contact me directly at [email address] to discuss a suitable course of action.

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Reply #47
From: Nick_
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 4:12 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

john gohde at naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:

> > > http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/…
> > > http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c?d
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse
> This type of posting on a technical forum is offensive to me. :

That’s an interesting distinction. It’s just a shame this kind of racism and bigotry isn’t offensive to you when you post it on *non* technical forums.

~Nick

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Reply #48
From: JLH
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 4:42 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Ten Foot Pole–>
—–1—–2—–3—–4——5—–6——7—–8—–9——10

This thread—> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

They aren’t touching!!!!!!

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John H. Gohde
Comments:
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Reply #49
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 6:46 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

The science communities take on John Goade:-

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.nutrition/2006-08/msg0058…

The web-ring created by goade through which purchases can be made

http://ka.webring.com/navbar?f=l;y=naturalhealthperspective;u=9935…

Goades real and published opnion of Google

http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Trends/tree/browse_fr…

Thus, I feel that Google is fundamentally dishonest to the public.

Attronies are still waiting Goade.

john gohde


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