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What Google Customer Service for Webmasters Did To Me


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John H. Gohde
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Reply #50
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 7:32 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?Goad said in this forum ..’ I am NOT critical of Google’On Friday 28th July 2006 Goad said and published:-‘……..Thus, I feel that Google is fundamentally dishonest to the
public. They are a business trying to make money off the public,
period. They are anything, but impartial observers of human behavior.
Further, I have seen so many screwy things done in Google as well as in
Google Trends that I wouldn’t take their data too seriously at all.
Also, I will point out they these fundamentally dishonest people like
Google can in fact identify visitors to a web page right down to the
actual computer that made the call. I started using a new FREE web
page tracking service and this is precisely the information that I got
from them. Thus, a big boy like Google could very easily cross check
their search engine information to another database that provides the
public’s real names, addresses, and telephone numbers. And, end up
selling this information to advertisers who might be interested in
marketing to real people who might conceivably be in the market to buy
a new car, for example. Personally, I would trust hard numbers over a
screwy graph any day of the week. Therefore, I would trust SEO over
Google. ‘

Goad said ‘Nor, does my site sell any products …. indirectly’
.’
http://ka.webring.com/navbar?f=l;y=naturalhealthperspective;u=9935612…

GOOGLE THIS IS WHAT GOAD IS ALL ABOUT:-
http://ka.webring.com/profile?y=naturalhealthperspective

Your neatly dressed up site may convey innocence to the naive but to
those who know your history and what you really are we are catching up
with you. Your scam will end soon Goad.

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Reply #51
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 7:51 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

‘Thus, I feel that Google is fundamentally dishonest to the
public.’

BTW that’s Goades take on google not mine. I may have the occasional
rant, I may question googles methods but to accuse any company of
dishonesty is an actionable libel which I dearly hope Google will take.

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Reply #52
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 11:41 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

This is the complete post #22.

[email address] wrote:
> borris johnstone wrote:
> > I was also engaged in that thread (to validate or not to validate) and
> > there was some extremely valuable and good advice on design from a
> > number of contributors including softplus and Volvox777.
> > Silverstall also enlightened us with a crucial legal issue all of which
> > you feebly attempted to trash with a tirade of abuse and libel.
> > I have issues with Google as well however unlike you I actually listen
> > and take on board the comments rendered particularly from people who
> > have a far greater understanding on a subject than you.

> This is 2006 rather than 1995.

> Anybody in this day and age who is not aware of 1995 legislation
> regarding accessibilty of web sites to the handicapped is a basket
> case, IMHO.

I stand by my above comments. Nobody but nobody who claims to known
anything at all about web developement has an excuse in the year 2006
to plead ignorance on this issue.

I positively was paid to work on accommodation and accessibility issues
for the physically handicapped for the Commonwealth of Virginia in
1978. I shall repeat it again: 1978.

YOU have no excuse whatsoever, absolutely none, IMHO.
.

> Volvox777 fundamentally does NOT know what he is talking about most of
> the time. And, everyone of his posts proves it. πŸ™‚

Volvox, which just happens to stand for pond scum as a matter of fact.
http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/art97b/volvoxms.html
has proved my point over and over again. His choice of pond scum for
an account name alone proves my contention. πŸ™‚

> Further, I do NOT like to have idiots like Volvox777 belittle my
> successful web design while inserting my name in every other paragraph
> of his personally insulting and idiotic replies to me.

Positively correct in all respects. I do NOT like anyone belittling my
successful web design. I especially do NOT, an idiot like Volvox for
example, belittling my web design when he obviously does not have a
clue about designing for accessibility in an informational resource web
site.

You don’t know what you are talking about Volvox, most of the time.
And, that is a fact. Your complaint about this post alone proves it.

Please STOP replying to my posts 100%, as you said you were going to
do. Or, are you also a Liar?

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Reply #53
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 11:44 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

webado wrote:
> Put a sock in it John Gohde !

> Jesus, man, don’t you know when to quit?

> Of all insufferable nerve!

> I have avoided trashing you until now because of the modicum of
> decorum I have felt I needed to keep. But be warned that I will tear
> into you with all my might if I see or hear you’ve posted another
> asinine or insulting thing about me or anybody else, what’s you’ve
> been doing all along. Words, to be sure, but the right word at the
> right time and you’re out on you sore arse . And don’t let me hear you
> complain about anything either.

> I didn’t get to this point in life by taking abuse and insults from
> anybody, least of all from a snake-oil salesman like you turned out to
> be.

> Oh, you will find yourself in Google – in vivid detail – all through
> your own doing and nobody else’s! And not supplemental either. Happy to
> help achieve that status.

> What I read you posted here and elsewhere is so despicable, it makes
> me want to squash you like the damn pimple you are!

I will report your abusive post this afternoon at work.

This type of posting has absolutely no place whatsoever in a technical
forum.

And, oh by the way, validating a web site site has next to nothing to
do with SEO.

Just thought you might want to get a new day job, since you basically
are giving out the wrong advice on this group.

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Reply #54
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 11:46 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Volvox777 wrote:
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

> Adam, I understand that as a Google employee your role here is to
> moderate rather than engage in this sort of nonsense. However, I hope
> you share my outrage at the racist and sexist filth John Gohde has
> posted in various Google groups.

> Let me stress, if it were only personal insults from John, I would
> never be suggesting such actions. However, I despise bigotry in all its
> forms and believe it is the responisbility of every reasonable person
> to combat racism every time they encounter it.

> I am seeking expressions of interests to create a site dedicated to
> exposing John Gohde of Natural Health Perspective views on racism and
> sexism.

> I am seeking expressions of interest to share the work of contacting
> sites that have linked to http://www.naturalhealthperspective.com to let them
> know the type of person that owns a site they are endorsing by
> providing a link to.

> I am disgusted that people like John share the oxygen I breathe. I am
> looking for like minded people to assist in the task of teaching this
> bigot that, although he is welcome to have whatever view he likes, he
> must never give voice to views that contravene a world of equality and
> harmony.

> Anybody interested in assisting with this undertaking can contact me
> directly at [email address] to discuss a suitable course of action.

I will report this abusive post at work this afternoon. πŸ™‚

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Reply #55
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 11:53 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Nick_ wrote:
> john gohde at naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:

> > > > > http://groups.google.as/group/sci.med.nutrition/browse_thread/thread/…
> > > > > http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.politics/msg/5ce8e8f7c16e7ad0?d…
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thr…
> > This type of posting on a technical forum is offensive to me. :
> That’s an interesting distinction. It’s just a shame this kind of
> racism and bigotry isn’t offensive to you when you post it on *non*
> technical forums.

You clearly do not know the difference between a biggotted statement,
biggotry, racism, a racist statement, and somebody talking about the
crime problem in Richmond, VA and New Orleans. I have no time to
enlighten a total dolt about the fine points about my prior posts
posted on other newsgroups.

What I do outside of this forum is none of your business.

This type of posting has absolutely no place in a technical forum.

I will report this abusive message at work. πŸ™‚

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Reply #56
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 11:57 am
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

borris johnstone wrote:
> ‘Thus, I feel that Google is fundamentally dishonest to the
> public.’

> BTW that’s Goades take on google not mine. I may have the occasional
> rant, I may question googles methods but to accuse any company of
> dishonesty is an actionable libel which I dearly hope Google will take.

Why is this toad still posting who publicly defamed my character?

I am reporting your abusive posting.

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John H. Gohde
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Reply #57
From: webado
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Please somebody among moderators put John Gohde out of his misery.

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Reply #58
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:17:00 -0800
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

‘Why is this toad still posting who publicly defamed my character?
I am reporting your abusive posting.’

Pleeeeeeeeease do. While your at it don’t forget to mention these five
things :-

1. You have stated many times throughout the world that ‘Google are
dishonest’
2. Your web-rings
3. The contents of your site are scraped from other sites – it is a
complete sham – the site is a scraper site to give your spam generating
web-rings some PR value whilst opening doorways to spread the malicious
and vile race-hatred that you are so eager to pollute the internet
with.
4. You have libelled many innocent people not least of all Volvox777.
5. Proof of your qualifications that you have throughout thrown in the
faces of many people here. – Accountants certification number?

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Reply #59
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:02:18 -0800
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Volvox777 wrote:

> I am seeking expressions of interests to create a site dedicated to
> exposing John Gohde of Natural Health Perspective views on racism and
> sexism.

You are asking for a lawsuit, is what you are asking for.

And, if you are doing it with the aide of Google, well Google better
start acting fast even if it is the holdays.

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Reply #60
From: johngohde@natural…”
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

[email address] wrote:
> What has this Google Group done for me?

> Since June 2006, I have NOT received from here any advice at all that
> was worth a hoot! The only good advice that I ever got from this group
> was to change my hosting provider so that Google would accept a sitemap
> from me. Yep, that advice was actually more evidence of a definite
> bias towards sitemaps, here. I found this group, by way of actually
> trying to use Google’s Webmasters Tools.

> Nobody here convinced me to use validated code. That suggestion came
> from precisely one MSN webmaster help web page. As well as some heated
> discussions on another newsgroup. But, once my web page templates were
> validated 100%. And, I had started to load validated code, I was told
> here that my web pages did not validate by a couple of Google Droogies.
> How nice? And, how stupid of them?

> Nobody convinced me to use CSS. I did that on my own. Nobody on any
> group or newsgroup told me how to fix the FireFox browser CSS problem.
> My style sheets validated 100%, yet FireFox was ignoring them! I
> figured that out on my own by studying the style sheet actually used by
> a CSS web page tutorial. No body here told me how to suppress carriage
> returns with CSS. I asked that question on a CSS group and got the
> CORRECT answer within one hour. Nobody on this group has ever given me
> the correct solution to a particular SEO problem, here. Just the dumb,
> add more compelling and ever changing content advice nonsense!!!

> Nobody here told me what web page design would actually improve my
> Keyword placement in Google. I figured that out on my own by observing
> the behavior of Google, regarding two different web pages that I had
> ORIGINALLY CREATED for Wikipedia on the same topic ( i.e., wellness).
> My design theories were confirmed by two web pages that I found in
> Microsoft Office’s online training for FrontPage. After having enough
> faith in my design, I waited about 5 weeks for Google to finally
> respond favorably. All you people did was to give me a lot of negative
> feedback while I anxiously waited for Google to respond. How nice of
> you? Then you pretended that I still did NOT know what I was talking
> about. How typical of SEO Droogies?

> Most certainly, nobody here told me about what constitutes designing
> for Accessibility. And, from what I have observed nobody here has a
> clue about how to achieve good Accessibility. I added Accessibility to
> my web page design over 5 years ago. And, after converting to a basic
> CSS font replacement design (but definitely not 100%, and definitely
> NOT tables) Netscape Navigator version 4.08 and other CSS challenged
> web browsers can still navigate and actually read and ACCESS all of my
> informational content. But, what I have gotten from this Google Group
> is a lot of misinformation and criticism of my web page design, even
> though it is currently placing me in the top 10 for my Keyword in
> Google. Google’s Webmaster Tools actually states that I have been
> averaging #9 for my keyword with FULL ACCESSIBILITY implementation. πŸ™‚

> Sorry to break your bubble, but Eye Candy and Accessibility for the
> handicapped, visually impaired, and non-English speaking visitors to
> your web sites is mutually exclusive. πŸ™‚

> What I have observed is that SEO Droogies take special delight in
> subjecting naive people to their SEO Treatment. In other worlds, SEO
> Droogies just love to jerk people around wasting their time. They wont
> give you a straight answer. And, they will never under any
> circumstances tell you what the CORRECT solution for a particular web
> page actually is.

> And, on this particular Google group Sitemaps followed by Validation is
> used to cure all that ails a web site. 😦

> YES, compared to what I have seen here. My web page design, level of
> validation errors, and level of achieved SEO is light years ahead of
> many web developers. YET, all I have gotten from you Google / SEO
> Droogies is a lot of nonsense, misinformation, bad advice, and
> criticisms about my web page design, and non validating code!!!

> You people need to get real. You, do NOT know what you are talking
> about most of the time. That is what I know for sure. πŸ™‚
> —
> john gohde

Having reported a dozen or so reports of abusive messages on this
thread, including but not limited to defamation of my character
regarding making a 21 year old girl go blind, the problem is obviously
the Thanksgivings Day Holiday in the United States. Simply a matter of
bad timiing. These jokers will get what is due them next week. πŸ™‚

So, why don’t we get back to the topic of this thread: “What has this
Google Group done for me?”

Gee, perhaps it really should have been “What has this Google Group
done to me?”

All the turkies who personally attacked me for merely pointing out the
obvious should only underscore the fundamental problem of this group
that I have exposed in this thread. If you are seriously expecting
anyone of these turkies to actually help you, you are sadly mistaken.

The SEO droogies here will, as evidenced above, be all too glad to give
you their Standard SEO Treatment, and then some. The problem is
obviously worst than I first reported. 😦

Who says so? I do. The master and commader of my own web site. A
site that I might add is currently ranking #9 for its keyword, no
thanks to this group. Has been in the top ten for a couple of weeks,
now … 1990’s design or no.

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John H. Gohde
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Reply #61
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

‘These jokers will get what is due them next week. πŸ™‚ ‘

What exactly do you mean by that Gohde?

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Reply #62
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

> There is absolutely nothing wrong with my home page.

You still have the canonicalisation issues – www vs non-www both giving
200 responses. I’d suggest settling on the non-www form, since that’s
what you use internally.

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Reply #63
From: Volvox777
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

John said
Volvox, which just happens to stand for pond scum as a matter of fact

Might well be one of the most correct statements John has made in his
time with us – although it doesn’t “stand for” pond scum – it is pond
scum. It is actually an amazing little amoeba that was the first
creature on earth to reproduce sexually.

Anyone interested in learning more about volvox and reading my geeky
science poem “Volvox: The Amorous Amoeba” can visit my creative writing
section on my site here:

http://www.progex.net/writings/volvox.htm

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Reply #64
From: Volvox777
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 5:01 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

John said
You are asking for a lawsuit, is what you are asking for

As my degree was focused on commercialization of biotechnology, I have
some legal training – mosting in IP law – so I am not an expert on
libel and slander.

What I do know is that you can not sue me for quoting you – all I am
proposing to do is bring your racist comments to the attnetion of those
sites that link to you, the HON site and if I can track down where you
work – then to your employer.

If you can find a lawyer who is happy to take your money to attempt a
case that has no chance of success go ahead and bring your action
against me but you might like to consider two things:
1. You have made numerous posts in this group with the intention to
humiliate and belittle me. As my website and contact details are shown
in my profile this enables other readers to identify who I am. I have a
clear case for a counter claim against you.
2. You might like to investigate the remedies for frivolous lawsuits
under US law

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Reply #65
From: Phil Payne
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

> I don’t think I’ve had to do this yet, but if I see egregiously offensive
or purely-personal-bickering notes, I likely won’t hesitate to delete
them without warning or notice.

If you follow the quoted ‘bibliography’, you’ll find that Google has
already deleted a number of items.

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John H. Gohde
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Reply #66
From: webado
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Too bad – they should leave it on and make sure it gets indexed
thoroughly everywhere as an example of how to be an exceedingly
insufferable moron and PITA.

John Gohde, you will be forever maligned in this group and I bet also
anywhere else you may opt to hang out – anywhere that is short of
inside your own closed mind.

I’m trying to summon at least a bit of pity for you but I’m only
managing to find contempt.

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Reply #67
From: Nick_
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Phil Payne wrote:
> If you follow the quoted ‘bibliography’, you’ll find that Google has
> already deleted a number of items.

Remember, users can delete their own posts, but not those which appear
quoted by other posters.

~Nick

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Reply #68
From: silverstall
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

The internet should be a just and integrated society, where diversity
is valued. We should all use persuasion and the powers under the law to
give everyone an equal chance to participate in the world wide web free
from fear of discrimination, prejudice and racism. That is why i
implore Google to remove this individual and his site from the index,
to show, the internet community will not tolerate racial hatred in
whatever form.

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John H. Gohde
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Reply #69
From: borris johnstone
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

Gohde is like the drunk in the gutter. Shouting abuse as you walk by
you ignore it and carry on your journey. Sadly the internet is not a
gutter, for the abuse remains embedded on your screen every time your
journey passes the point at which the abuse was left. Like Graffiti it
needs to be removed however when you do it returns. The only answer
therefore is to remove not only the graffiti but the offender.

I am convinced the only answer is for all links, wherever they are to
be found, to this racist spammer, be removed and deleted so that we
can all go about our daily lives without being tormented by the racist
overture of a deluded fascist.

Gohde if you’re sober and reading this I want to emphasize that there
is no place in society anymore, not even the internet, where you can
peddle your filth and promote your racist agenda.

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John H. Gohde
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Reply #70
From: Adam Lasnik
Date: Wed, Nov 22 2006 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: What has this Google Group done for me?

This thread has already gone on way too long. Replies are now closed.
john gohde


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